Suboxone And Adderall
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I started subs four days ago I am taking a whole 8mg sub twice a day. I also take 45mg of adderall a day for ADD and i need the adderall because I am a college student is it harmful to take them together? The suboxone has done excellent for me, and has kept the oxy out of my mind. I got addicted to tabs when I was playing college baseball in order to play through two broken fingers and bum shoulder. So instead of doing a gut check time dealing with the pain through an ice bucket or taking some time off to heal up because i was just a freshman and i was battling it out for starting spot with a all-conference senior. I became immune to the tabs, so a player introduced me to oxy contin I was taking 80mg a day this continued into the fall season of my sophomore year until I tore the ligaments of my throwing hand I had to have surgery it was career ending injury and rehab was nine months during which I received perocets I began to stack them with oxy and adderall. This addiction almost destroyed my life.It almost cost me everything and put my parents through hell not only physically but also financially cause I used the money they sent me for living expenses instead to support my habit,but they continued to be my rock and never gave up on me. The suboxone made me feel like life did before oxy. I am now a junior and with the help of the Good Lord I am getting my life back. I would like to know if the 45mg of adderall is safe with the suboxone? I am having to buy the suboxone is there clinic i can go to thats not rehab to get prescribed or a doctor? What are my options? I went dry for a week but quickly relapsed,but I want this time I don't care how hard it is. So please any help with my options would be appreciated.
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Adam Says:Tuesday, 1/31/2012 9:10:59 PM
Your story seems very similar to mine. I have been going to the same psychatrist for almost 10 years, where I was prescribed adderall and xanax. However, for the last 3 or 4 years I had been buying roxys and doing those as well. At first just at night, then all day, until I almost lost everything. I lost my girlfriend of 8 years, spent every penny to my name, have debt now that I am never going to get out of, and I almost lost my job. (I'm a teacher) Luckily, I still have it and I am doing well with suboxone. I went to a couple of re-hab places, but they all wanted to take me off everything. They told me that if I told my psych. that he would drop me. So, I continued to use and see my psych every month. Until, I realized there was nothing else to lose, and I just needed to be honest with him. Man, I wish I would have done it years ago. He gave me suboxone and continued all my other medications. Sometimes, honesty is the best policy for sure.
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foxboy Says:Tuesday, 1/10/2012 8:52:08 AM
I wouldn't get off the subs while u have all that school work going on unless u can afford to be sick a few days. U could always try skipping every other day for a week then skip every 2 days etc till u don't need the subs at all. That's what I did. My doc wouldn't prescribe me adderall for my adhd while I was on subs. Now I lost my insurance due to a layoff at work and can't go to the doc to get a new script. Sucks having to be on meds cuz ur more out of tune when u don't have them then what u would be if u never even started using them from the get go ! Do u live in pa?
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NurseK33 Says:Tuesday, 12/27/2011 11:04:35 AM
Hey everyone, I have been taking suboxone for about 6 months now and I started at around 4 mg and have tried tapering myself down and now I am at 1 mg. This drug is very useful for treating people who were addicted to opiates and cannot stop doing them as I'm sure you all know. Suboxone has been great but I'm ready to get off of it. Does anyone have any good tips? I know I can't just jump off at 1 mg because I'm in nursing school and cannot afford to lay in bed or not study. So from everything I've read people have recommended tapering down and going down .25 every four days. This is what I'm trying to do but I feel like I am stuck at 1mg. Now, I have recently found out that I have ADD and have just been prescribed 10mg of adderall by my doctor. I also take celexa (antidepressant) and xanax. It sucks that I have gotten myself into this predicament but seeing how everyone says adderall is highly addictive I coulf opt to just not take it. But, I feel like the reason I began seaking out drugs in college was so that I could study and complete homework-which is often a sign of ADD. My psychiatrist doesn't know I'm taking the suboxone that I get from a friend but she felt comfortable enough to prescribe it to me while on xanax. Can someone give me some advice as to maybe some good helpful advice about what I should do to kick this sub habit that would be great. Also any other comments or advice about what I'm taking is welcomed. Like I said, I am a nursing student and I don't have time to lay in bed and withdrawal...I've got to be on top of my game everyday. Only three semesters left but this is where things are getting hairy. Please help!
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Tyler Says:Monday, 5/9/2011 12:52:17 AM
Correction. A side effect of suboxone is that it can cause decreased blood pressure or HYPOtension. Only cases of high bp are when it is given too soon to the last use of a opiod. In this case it creates a precipitated withdrawal and can create a DT like effect. Other than that it will lower pressure just like most narcotics/opiod analgesics. Example. A hospice patient receiving morphine. This drops their pressure sometimes allowing the body to pass away sooner.
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Positivetj Says:Saturday, 4/30/2011 7:23:24 AM
Pressingtheissue- I think that is awesome that you completed sub treatment successfully and had no problems getting off the medication. I just started about 5 weeks ago. I would love to hear more about your story and your successful suboxone taper. Do you have it posted on any suboxone forums? Would you mind emailing me and letting me know? If not..... No worries.. Just nervous since I'm new on subs. Trainertj@yahoo
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pressingtheissue Says:Monday, 3/28/2011 8:17:16 AM
All of these comment are great. I used Suboxone for a little over two years under supervision of a certified doctor and a private therapist. Also it's recommended to attend group sessions. I did all of these and slowly tapered off of 16 mg/day down to 0. It was easy and painless. I now have my life back and am so thankful to my family for helping me through my 15 year addiction to Heroin and Crack.
Also a bit on Adderall. I too took 30mg per day with my Suboxone to "get more work done" and realized that it was turning into yet another addiction. I started getting lower doses and quit in one week. I realized that I would be addicted to it and not be able to get out of bed in the morning without it! So please get out of that situation while you still can.
Doctor locator links:
https://www.treatmentmatch.org/index.cfm
http://www.pressingtheissue.com/2010/11/find-suboxone-doctors-near-you
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Also a bit on Adderall. I too took 30mg per day with my Suboxone to "get more work done" and realized that it was turning into yet another addiction. I started getting lower doses and quit in one week. I realized that I would be addicted to it and not be able to get out of bed in the morning without it! So please get out of that situation while you still can.
Doctor locator links:
https://www.treatmentmatch.org/index.cfm
http://www.pressingtheissue.com/2010/11/find-suboxone-doctors-near-you
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Reffers Says:Wednesday, 5/19/2010 4:18:04 PM
I'm telling you these things help. You also may want to get a testosterone booster because once again oxycontin killed all yours!! Because you don't want to cry and be all depressed. Deal with it.
1. Get a testosterone booster containing only tribulus terrestris as the main ingredient. NO Pro-hormone just booster Vitrix made by Nutrex. Good stuff.
2. A good milk thistle is good as well help flush your liver out.
I could go on and on. They help but they are not gonna relieve all your problems.
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1. Get a testosterone booster containing only tribulus terrestris as the main ingredient. NO Pro-hormone just booster Vitrix made by Nutrex. Good stuff.
2. A good milk thistle is good as well help flush your liver out.
I could go on and on. They help but they are not gonna relieve all your problems.
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pillpoppinanimal Says:Tuesday, 5/18/2010 8:48:35 AM
I also became addicted to oxycontin when i was seventeen, I used to take 30mg of adderall a day my freshman year but it made me so socially anxious so i went off that and onto paxil, which i believe is a placebo. In HS i hated smoking pot and wasn't a big drinker so junior year i took a pill that made me feel on top of the world...oxys, and xanax. So now ive been off and on suboxone for like four years now and something is still missing i still was getting depressed and wanted to use xanax. Then my buddy offers me an adderall and i said why not? So i took 8mg of suboxone that day and 30mg of adderall and im telling you i felt great. I am much more talkative and outgoing and more aware of things, and the best part is i am going with more girls then before. I do believe that way too many people are on medications but if your like me and you have hard core anxiety problems and opiate addictions and have hard times just making it through the day then i suggest talking to a certified psychiatrist. Its the best thing to do. But just to let you know suboxone, in my opinion, is just as hard as getting off of oxycontin because it is in a class of opiates. But if you feel like you cant get off opiates yourself just go to suboxone.com and find a doctor. I hope some people find this comment useful
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Verwon Says:Monday, 10/26/2009 5:29:14 PM
There are no warnings listed against using them together, but you really need to consult a medical professional to be certain.
As was posted above, this really needs to be used under a doctor's supervision and only one specially trained in the use of Suboxone to treat addiction is allowed to prescribe it for this in the U.S.
You can check out that link to see if there is one in your area.
Your other possible choice is to see if there is a Methadone treatment clinic in your area, it is a lot cheaper, but a very rough medication to take.
http://www.prescriptiondrug-info.com/drug_details.asp?title=Suboxone&page=1003573&ad=true
Have you consulted a doctor about this at all?
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As was posted above, this really needs to be used under a doctor's supervision and only one specially trained in the use of Suboxone to treat addiction is allowed to prescribe it for this in the U.S.
You can check out that link to see if there is one in your area.
Your other possible choice is to see if there is a Methadone treatment clinic in your area, it is a lot cheaper, but a very rough medication to take.
http://www.prescriptiondrug-info.com/drug_details.asp?title=Suboxone&page=1003573&ad=true
Have you consulted a doctor about this at all?
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Halaluani Says:Monday, 10/5/2009 12:36:42 AM
You really need to be working with a doctor while on these drugs. In almost every community there is at least one physician certified to prescribe Suboxone. Here's a link to a search function for this:
http://www.suboxone.com/patients/here_to_help/find_a_doctor.aspx
As far a getting off Adderall, it can be done but should be done very slowly. There's a Yahoo Group that helps people do this with little to no disruption to their lives. It's called Withdrawal_and_Recovery.
Adderall addiction is a real and dangerous. This is a vastly overused drug that is rarely truly needed. Millions of people made it through college without it or another psych drugs. We live in a time now where the pharmaceutical industry has convinced everyone that any struggle we have is a mental illness and needs to be treated. The longer you take this drug the more difficult it becomes to get off it.
A study, published in June 2009 in the American Journal of Psychiatry, confirms that stimulants used to treat children for so-called ADHD can cause sudden cardiac arrest and death. As an athlete you are even more vulnerable to this. There is also evidence from studies of stimulant addicts and case reports that stimulant drugs can cause heart disease, including inflammation and scarring. When drugs like Ritalin and Adderall are prescribed in routine pediatric doses, they commonly cause hypertension, which can lead to an enlarged heart. Suboxone also increases blood pressure so your risk is even higher.
It's really important for you to have some medical oversight. Good luck. Remember to check out the Yahoo Group.
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http://www.suboxone.com/patients/here_to_help/find_a_doctor.aspx
As far a getting off Adderall, it can be done but should be done very slowly. There's a Yahoo Group that helps people do this with little to no disruption to their lives. It's called Withdrawal_and_Recovery.
Adderall addiction is a real and dangerous. This is a vastly overused drug that is rarely truly needed. Millions of people made it through college without it or another psych drugs. We live in a time now where the pharmaceutical industry has convinced everyone that any struggle we have is a mental illness and needs to be treated. The longer you take this drug the more difficult it becomes to get off it.
A study, published in June 2009 in the American Journal of Psychiatry, confirms that stimulants used to treat children for so-called ADHD can cause sudden cardiac arrest and death. As an athlete you are even more vulnerable to this. There is also evidence from studies of stimulant addicts and case reports that stimulant drugs can cause heart disease, including inflammation and scarring. When drugs like Ritalin and Adderall are prescribed in routine pediatric doses, they commonly cause hypertension, which can lead to an enlarged heart. Suboxone also increases blood pressure so your risk is even higher.
It's really important for you to have some medical oversight. Good luck. Remember to check out the Yahoo Group.
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